https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/ec31511a-eded-45b0-9236-50dde1c2d903/episodes/00d29d7d-995f-4fdd-84c2-949a6bd2dfeb/audio/75e7ebde-cab8-4253-82f5-f3d224cda9f1/default_tc.mp3 A Conversation with D.J. Horton Published March 28, 2025